Applying Card Counting on the card game called Yablon/In-between or Red Dog ?
Question by Hellodelli: Applying Card Counting on the card game called Yablon/In-between or Red Dog ?
They are various card counting methods out there but are mostly used for blackjack only. Is there a card counting system for card game such as Yablon/ In between ?
If there is, which card counting system should i use? (high/low, omega, red seven and etc..) Please help me select the best one out there.
(Yablon is a very simple game. Yablon is a banking game in which two cards are dealt face up, and the player bets on whether a third card will rank between the first two cards. Mostly played in Asia and involve pretty big pool on the table. http://www.pagat.com/banking/yablon.html)
Yes, its pretty different comparing Red dog and blackjack.
The problem now is applying the right value on the cards. Ace,King,Queen can be also an advantage and disadvantage for the player
Assuming your opening hand is Ace(1) and King and the number in between is 2,3,4…Q.
If the dealer open up the card Ace or King you are busted.
7,8,9 is assigned 0 for blackjack but in Red Dog it also can be an advantage card assuming if you get Ace or 2 in your opening hand.
Maybe i should ask a mathematician to assign the value for me lol.
I totally agree with you Zadignose. Tracking the middle card are important and should be assign a higher value but tracking other cards are equally important as well.
Let’s assumed that you have (6) and a (K) in your opening hands but the chances of obtaining 7,8,9,10,J,Q are only 6/8 if you did not track A,1,2,3,4,5, 6, K properly.
Assigning value in my opinion can be done but pretty difficult and i doubt it is worth it because it might be a level 3-4 counting difficulty.
Best answer:
Answer by sandynlily
Card counting systems gauge assign point to cards that are proportional to their “effect of removal” on the EV of the game being played.
For blackjack cards 2-7 have an effect of decreasing the house edge when removed, and the rest increase it.
So in the game of blackjack point values are assigned negative and positive number to those two groups.
For another game entirely, the effect of removal will be different, so point assignments would need to be different. This means that blackjack card counting systems would not be ideal.
It may be logical, that the cards that are most important in this game are the cards that are MOST likely to fall between two cards, i would imagine that cards 7,8,9 would fall between two other cards values more often than any other cards, or perhaps the cards that represent the end of the spectrum would be most valuable, since they offer you the best ability to predict when the cards will fall between them.
You have to gauge what kind of effect each card has when its removed form the game in comparison to each other card and assign point accordingly, then use a computer to simulate at what count enough cards are removed to overcome the house advantage.
I know nothing about the game in question, but other games are beatable by card counting, blackjack is just the most common.
Some games are not beatable by card coutning, and i feel this may be the case for this one unfortunately from what i understand about it.
—–Edit, after further research into the game, i found that the house edge lies in the shorting of payouts based on their odds, this would suggest that the game may be beatable if the player can detect a large anough change in the probibilities of the game , I also foudn the house edge to be somewhat small.
I feel that it is vulnerable to card counting for the main aspect of the game using a multi paramiter count that incorperates more than two card groups.
I also feel that the payout for ties when the dealer draws a thrid card is particularly vulnerable.
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